Purity of Word
2 Tim 4: judge the quick and the dead. Preach the word.
Emerging church in 2005
How has today's culture impacted your Church?
Let me preface my comments by saying that I understand the purpose of this lesson and that it has some very valid points. There are, however, some things that are hard sayings for me. I don’t believe I been offended because I refuse to be. Because I refuse to be offended I believe these comments will not offend anyone else. As a matter of fact I am not defending any man but I believe I am defending the message that has so radically changed my life and made it worth living again and has also brought me to KI.
Perhaps I am confused by some of the terms used in this session, I know the same terms can mean different things to different people but the term the emergent church seemed to be a demeaning term. II agree with Pastor Joe and am aghast at some of the quotes He used in this session.
As many of you have commented about my D.Q.’s you say you see the love of God and his hand on my life and I am thankful for that,but according to some of the descriptions given in this session I am a part of the emerging church because two of the names he mentioned have had the biggest influence on my life. It was through their ministries that I have learned to love the word and its integrity was established in my heart and life. I am referring to Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Hagen, Yes, I am a member of the “name it and claim it” bunch or the “word of Faith” or whatever else we are called. But I must tell you that we love the Lord, are committed to His word and I believe I am a member of the biggest Holy Ghost Gang ever! God is moving in our midst and I believe the awakening that started 100 years ago at Azuza Street is only growing stronger and stronger. God is pouring our His Spirit of Prayer as never before and His people of this nation are humbling themselves and God will be faithful to His Word and heal our great land of America.
As for my church it has a lot of growing to do. The people have not been trained in the Word nor do they understand the laws of the Spirit that govern our lives. I know this is one of the reasons I am there. You see I prayed for this church for 10 years before I started going there. I prayed that my children world find another church instead of this one! Mainly because they didn’t believe the way I thought they should. Needless to say some of my views were immature and have changed. Some of my views I believe were valid and so now I am one of the most requested teachers of the church. It is so marvelous even when the pastor and I don’t agree on an issue He allows me to state my case and then he states his and now the people can think and learn for themselves. The main reason I can do this is because the pastor has seen me live the life of Jesus before him, I mean really see me because my daughter is on his staff and they are personal friends and we see them socially as well as in the church.
Proverbs says there is always two sides to an issue and the first one seems right until you hear the second side. We are all different, thank you Jesus, so we need different aspects of teachings as long as the integrity of the word is upheld. I once heard it stated this way” we are all going up that same mountain some of us are just taking different paths than others”.
I submit this D.Q. very prayerfully and I believe I was led by the Holy Spirit.
Any and all comments are welcomed.
In His dust,
Lois
What is the central message of the Bible and how is it being attacked today?
1 Cor 1: 23 We preach Christ (the Messiah) crucified, [preaching which] to the Jews is a scandal and an offensive stumbling block [that springs a snare or trap], and to the Gentiles it is absurd and utterly unphilosophical nonsense.
1 Cor 2: 2 For I resolved to know nothing (to be acquainted with nothing, to make a display of the knowledge of nothing, and to be conscious of nothing) among you except Jesus Christ (the Messiah) and Him crucified.
It’s very evident that human nature has not changed. Today as in the days of Paul the main issue is will you be a giver dedicated to others or a taker who keeps what they have and takes away what others have.
We should not be surprised that the “religious” denotations are removing the Cross from their spiritual lives. As Paul so eloquently said it is a stumbling block to the Jews, the idea that their long awaited Messiah would be accursed and the Greeks unphilosophical nonsense, for they were the “thinkers” of the day, the ones who knew what was best for everyone because they were too ignorant to know for themselves, sounds like our secular humanist of today, indeed they are “cut from the same cloth”.
I thank God that where sin abounds there grace much more abounds. As a result today the facts are that the world is in a downward spin and they need one to stand in the gap, today more than ever. The commission to spread the gospel, the news that the Son of God was crucified so you could become a son of God, was given to the church so the church will be held responsible when we stand before the Lord. I keep hearing the words of Jeremiah the Prophet Judah was so vile and corrupt they had been warned over and over again and the end of their evil was close at hand, and still the Lord asked Jeremiah to look everywhere in the city to see if he could find just one man that loved justice if he could then the Lord would spare Jerusalem. Jer 5:1
I believe the saddest day for the Lord is still ahead of Him, when He has to condemn His creation to hell. Then He will look at the church and ask if we did our part to spread the good news. I am determined to hear “Well done good and faithful servant enter into your reward.”
It is amazing what one dedicated life can do.
In His dust,
Lois
P.S. this is my last post for this class and I want to say it has been wonderful to be in class with all of you. It is amazing it seems as though I know all of you, and I I do in the spirit, I will be looking for you in my other classes. See you later.
2 Tim 4: judge the quick and the dead. Preach the word.
Emerging church in 2005
How has today's culture impacted your Church?
Let me preface my comments by saying that I understand the purpose of this lesson and that it has some very valid points. There are, however, some things that are hard sayings for me. I don’t believe I been offended because I refuse to be. Because I refuse to be offended I believe these comments will not offend anyone else. As a matter of fact I am not defending any man but I believe I am defending the message that has so radically changed my life and made it worth living again and has also brought me to KI.
Perhaps I am confused by some of the terms used in this session, I know the same terms can mean different things to different people but the term the emergent church seemed to be a demeaning term. II agree with Pastor Joe and am aghast at some of the quotes He used in this session.
As many of you have commented about my D.Q.’s you say you see the love of God and his hand on my life and I am thankful for that,but according to some of the descriptions given in this session I am a part of the emerging church because two of the names he mentioned have had the biggest influence on my life. It was through their ministries that I have learned to love the word and its integrity was established in my heart and life. I am referring to Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Hagen, Yes, I am a member of the “name it and claim it” bunch or the “word of Faith” or whatever else we are called. But I must tell you that we love the Lord, are committed to His word and I believe I am a member of the biggest Holy Ghost Gang ever! God is moving in our midst and I believe the awakening that started 100 years ago at Azuza Street is only growing stronger and stronger. God is pouring our His Spirit of Prayer as never before and His people of this nation are humbling themselves and God will be faithful to His Word and heal our great land of America.
As for my church it has a lot of growing to do. The people have not been trained in the Word nor do they understand the laws of the Spirit that govern our lives. I know this is one of the reasons I am there. You see I prayed for this church for 10 years before I started going there. I prayed that my children world find another church instead of this one! Mainly because they didn’t believe the way I thought they should. Needless to say some of my views were immature and have changed. Some of my views I believe were valid and so now I am one of the most requested teachers of the church. It is so marvelous even when the pastor and I don’t agree on an issue He allows me to state my case and then he states his and now the people can think and learn for themselves. The main reason I can do this is because the pastor has seen me live the life of Jesus before him, I mean really see me because my daughter is on his staff and they are personal friends and we see them socially as well as in the church.
Proverbs says there is always two sides to an issue and the first one seems right until you hear the second side. We are all different, thank you Jesus, so we need different aspects of teachings as long as the integrity of the word is upheld. I once heard it stated this way” we are all going up that same mountain some of us are just taking different paths than others”.
I submit this D.Q. very prayerfully and I believe I was led by the Holy Spirit.
Any and all comments are welcomed.
In His dust,
Lois
What is the central message of the Bible and how is it being attacked today?
1 Cor 1: 23 We preach Christ (the Messiah) crucified, [preaching which] to the Jews is a scandal and an offensive stumbling block [that springs a snare or trap], and to the Gentiles it is absurd and utterly unphilosophical nonsense.
1 Cor 2: 2 For I resolved to know nothing (to be acquainted with nothing, to make a display of the knowledge of nothing, and to be conscious of nothing) among you except Jesus Christ (the Messiah) and Him crucified.
It’s very evident that human nature has not changed. Today as in the days of Paul the main issue is will you be a giver dedicated to others or a taker who keeps what they have and takes away what others have.
We should not be surprised that the “religious” denotations are removing the Cross from their spiritual lives. As Paul so eloquently said it is a stumbling block to the Jews, the idea that their long awaited Messiah would be accursed and the Greeks unphilosophical nonsense, for they were the “thinkers” of the day, the ones who knew what was best for everyone because they were too ignorant to know for themselves, sounds like our secular humanist of today, indeed they are “cut from the same cloth”.
I thank God that where sin abounds there grace much more abounds. As a result today the facts are that the world is in a downward spin and they need one to stand in the gap, today more than ever. The commission to spread the gospel, the news that the Son of God was crucified so you could become a son of God, was given to the church so the church will be held responsible when we stand before the Lord. I keep hearing the words of Jeremiah the Prophet Judah was so vile and corrupt they had been warned over and over again and the end of their evil was close at hand, and still the Lord asked Jeremiah to look everywhere in the city to see if he could find just one man that loved justice if he could then the Lord would spare Jerusalem. Jer 5:1
I believe the saddest day for the Lord is still ahead of Him, when He has to condemn His creation to hell. Then He will look at the church and ask if we did our part to spread the good news. I am determined to hear “Well done good and faithful servant enter into your reward.”
It is amazing what one dedicated life can do.
In His dust,
Lois
P.S. this is my last post for this class and I want to say it has been wonderful to be in class with all of you. It is amazing it seems as though I know all of you, and I I do in the spirit, I will be looking for you in my other classes. See you later.
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